Marcel John BAILEY

Marcel John BAILEY

AKA  JACK 

Late of Quakers Hill Nursing Home, NSW

 

NSW Penrith Police College Class #  027

New South Wales Police Force

Regd. # 7224

Uniform #  3565 & 909

 

Rank:  Commenced Training at Penrith Police College on 11 February 1952 ( aged 22 years,  5 months,  2 days )

Probationary Constable- appointed 31 March 1952  ( aged 22 years, 6 months, 22 days )

Constable – appointed 31 March 1953

Constable 1st Class – appointed 1 July 1958 ( 4 months loss of Seniority somewhere )

Senior Constable – appointed 1 July 1963 

Sergeant 3rd Class – appointed 1 January 1968

Sergeant 2nd Class – appointed 11 June 1975

Sergeant 1st Class – appointed 1 December 1978

Final Rank =  Sergeant 1st Class 

 

Stations: Metropolitan District:  Police College, Penrith – Trainee

Liverpool GDs ( 22 Division )( ProCst )( 21 April 1952 – 9 June 1952 ),

was to be transferred to Moss Vale – but that was Cancelled,

Parramatta GDs ( 18 Division )( 10 June 1952 – 20 June 1954 ) – whilst at Parramatta, he assisted the Army at Windsor through the catastrophic floods,

Traffic Branch ( 21 June 1954 – PSB, later STP – Solo Cyclist – Probation ),

Traffic Branch ( 10 August 1954 – 30 June 1955, PSB, later STP – Solo Cyclist – Permanent ), 

Liverpool STP – Solo cyclist ( 1 July 1955 – 17 Jan. 1961 ),

Camden – STP ( Cst 1/c )( 18 Jan. 1961 – 13 Feb. 1966 )( 22 Division in those days but 35 Division now ),

Liverpool STP Solo Cyclist ( 14 Feb. 1966 – 16 June 1966 ),

Liverpool STP – STP – Car Crew ( 117 June 1966 – 23 June 1968 )

Liverpool STP – Assistant to Sgt In Charge, STP ( 24 June 1968 – 21 December 1969 )( Promoted to Sgt during this time and Assistant Sgt in Charge of STP, Liverpool,

Liverpool STP – Sgt In Charge, STP ( 22 December 1969 – 6 Sept. 1975 ),

Redfern GDs ( 7 Division )( 7 Sept. 1975 – 8 May 1976 ),

Liverpool HWP ( Sgt 2/c, OIC of Liverpool HWP )( 9 May 1976 – 4 December 1976 ),

On 8 January 1978 he was to go to Fairfield ( 34 Division GDs but that transfer was Cancelled,

Ryde HWP ( 17 Division )( Sgt 2/c – Sgt 1/c – OIC of HWP – 5 December 1976 – 25 March 1978 ),

 Liverpool Traffic Sgt ( 26 March 1978 – 23 December 1978 ),

Gosford GDs ( 32 Division – 24 December 1978 – 17 February 1979 ),

Liverpool GDs ( 18 February 1979 – 30 November 1980 ),

Wagga Wagga Police Stn – Traffic Supervisor ( 1 December 1980 – 9 September 1984  ),

Whilst the Traffic Supervisor at Wagga Wagga Police Station, Jack took optional retirement, at the age of 55 – 9 September 1984

Source – Stud Books and Liverpool ( NSW ) Police Time Line ( 1788 – 2016 ) & Police Service Card.

 

 

Service:  From 11 February 1952   to 9 September 1984  =  32 years, 6 months & 29 days Service

 

Awards:  No Find on Australian Honours – however his Service Card shows

Police Long Service & Good Conduct Medal – awarded 25 November 1974 – presented by, the then, Prime Minister Gough Whitlam

Commendation:

For part played in fighting the disastrous bush fires which occurred in the County of Cumberland during March, 1965.

signed:  N.T.W. ALLAN, Commissioner of Police – 19 Aug. 1965

 

BornMonday  9 September 1929

Died on:  Sunday  21 June 2020 in his sleep

Age:  90 years,  9 months & 12 days

Cause:  Natural – age

Event location:   ?

Event date ?

 

No live stream of funeral – Pinegrove don’t have these facilities

Funeral dateFriday  26 June 2020 @ 1.30pm – 2.30pm ( in Chapel ) 3.30pm – ( Graveside )

Funeral locationWest Chapel, Pinegrove Cemetery, Kington St, Minchinbury, NSW  02 96258066

( Due to current Govt. restrictions of 20 – 50 persons at a Funeral due to the Cornona19 Virus Pandemic – this will be a Private Funeral )

 

Future Wake location??? TBA

( Due to current Govt. restrictions of 50 persons only at ‘Gatherings’,  there won’t be an immediate Wake )

Future Wake date???

( Due to current Govt. restrictions on ‘Gatherings’ due to Corona19 Virus Pandemic, some families may wish to have a Memorial Service / Wake with friends and family at a later date )

 

Funeral Parlour: Guardian Funerals, 1 First Ave, Blacktown, NSW  02 9622 1284

Buried at    Pinegrove Cemetery, Calvary 3, Lot 235, B3

 

Memorial / Plaque / Monument located at: ?

Dedication date of Memorial / Plaque / Monument: Nil – at this time ( June 2020 )

 

JACK is NOT mentioned on the Police Wall of Remembrance  *NEED MORE INFO


FURTHER INFORMATION IS NEEDED ABOUT THIS PERSON, THEIR LIFE, THEIR CAREER AND THEIR DEATH.

PLEASE SEND PHOTOS AND INFORMATION TO Cal


May they forever Rest In Peace

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Service Card History:

Upon joining NSWPF, Marcel was:

6′ 1.5″ tall, weighed 14 st. 2 lb, had hazel eyes, brown hair and a fair complexion.

He was born in Croydon Park, NSW & Married on 23 October 1954.

He was previously employed at a Parcel Sorter – 2 weeks, Process Worker – 3 months, Fitter and Machinist 6.5 years.

He held the school Intermediate Certificate and held a Trade Certificate as Fitter & Machinist.

He failed his 1st attempt at the Cst 1/c course on 21 August 1956 but Passed on 24 June 1958 – which would explain his loss of 3 months Seniority.

He Passed his Sgt 3/c exam on 20 May 1965 and Passed his Sgt 1/c exam on 13 May 1975.

He was approved to Ride ( as a Solo Cyclist ) on 17 July 1952,

Approved ( O ) on 24 August 1953, ( I don’t know what the ‘O’ represents )

Approved S-hp on 10 August 1954 ( I don’t know what the ‘S-hp’ represents )

Approved to drive Departmental vehicles on 29 October 1958 and approved to drive General Duty utilities & light trucks on 29 January 1964.

He was approved as a High Speed Manual transmission driver on 23 May 1966.

 

 

 


At the time of publication, I have no further information – other than what is posted above.

 

Cal

25 June 2020

 


 

Email received from Jack’s daughter – Lynne on 30 June 2020.

Good morning,

 

I can’t help but be impressed with the respect you all have for each other even though dad retired around 36 years ago.

Inspector Scott Smith and six Police Officers from Mt Druitt took the time to attend the West Chapel at Pinegrove to honour dad and my mother Janet,  Friday 26th June 2020.  Family and friends were touched by the tribute and some footage and photos are available.

Dad was devoted to my mum (retired nurse/midwife) who  had a stroke in 2010 that affected her right side and speech.  Dad maintained the family home and spent every day (unless unwell) with mum.   He decided in January this year to sell the home to spend more time with mum.  He had a few health issues but was on the mend. He had a strength and determination you had to admire, no excuses.

He passed away peacefully in his sleep early in the morning on Sunday 21st June 2020 close to his loving  wife of 65 years.

I have two photos that we used at the service of the graduation of the class of 1952.  It was  taken at the Penrith academy and they were  found when preparing the Braidwood and Schofields properties for sale.

I will soon email them to you and Jody McLeod  for your records.

I have another early  picture of dad in what appears his motor cycle uniform.  A few photos later in his career on his bike and in his uniform at Wagga Wagga with a departmental  just before he retired on the 8th September 1984.  There is a  photo taken at his send off where he was presented with two plaques, one a hand made copper plaque and other memorabilia.

There are more photos and slides  to go through and if I locate any that may be of interest to your group I will forward them to you.

I am custodian of his long service good conduct medal which  was presented to him by Prime Minister Gough Whitlam who had gone out of his way to congratulate Dad and shake his hand.

I was not aware of his commendation through the fires and if it was written I hope I locate it as I still have some personal items to sift through.

I have his trade certificate,  Discharge from the Police Force and other certificates and happy to share if it is of interest.

When stationed at Parramatta he assisted the army at   Windsor through the catastrophic floods.

I recall some of his time at Liverpool Police Station through the mid to late  70s and I would often visit him there  on my way home from work.

He was on duty at Liverpool ( Feb ) 1977 when the train derailed at Granville and Mum was a nurse at Fairfield where many of the casualties were taken.  ( If Jack was stationed at Liverpool in Feb 1977 then his timeline of station attachments must be wrong.  Cal )

Dad was proud of his years in the force and valued the mateship.  He  retired at 55 to spend time and travel around the state with mum in their van and later a Winnebago.

 

Kind regards

Lynne Bak

nee Bailey

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Response:

Hi Lynne,

Our condolences on the loss of your father and I hope that you, and the family, gain strength from knowing that he wasn’t forgotten by those who knew him.

We look forward to attaching any, and all, the photos and video that you might like to share with us and any other memories that you may care to share.

Would also like to attach any funeral pamphlet that may have been made and a copy of his Service record and Eulogy.

 

much respect

 

Greg ‘Cal’ Callander

NSWPF # 17463

1975 – 2004


 

 

 

 

 




Kenneth Roy CURRAN OAM

Kenneth Roy CURRAN  OAM

AKA Bluey

Late of Frenchs Forest, NSW

NSW Redfern or Penrith Police Academy Class #  ? ? ?

New South Wales Police Force

Regd. # ????

Rank?

Final Rank = ?

Stations?

Service:  From ? ? 1950  to ? ? 19566 years Service

Awards: Medal of the Order of Australia ( OAM ) granted 12 June 2006

For service to the community, particularly through pipe bands & aged care organisations, & to a range of military and law enforcement authorities as an instructor.

Born: Wednesday  9 September 1925

Died on: Thursday  27 June 2019

Age: 93yrs  9mths  18days

Cause: On 24 May 2019 – Ken was in Arcardia, Pittwater Private Hospital after a heart attack

Event location: ?

Event date: ?

Funeral date: Thursday 4 July 2019 @ 10.30am

Funeral location: St. Martin de Porres Catholic Church, Prahran Avenue, Davidson, NSW

Wake location: ?

Funeral Parlour: Ann Wilson Funerals – 02 9971 4224

Buried at: ?

Memorial located at: ?

In the 1954 Electoral rolls, Ken is living at 91 Connaught St, Dee Why – along with Dory Mary, who was possibly his wife – and his occupation is recorded as ‘Policeman’.

Norma ( dec ), mentioned in his obituary “may have been” his second wife.

 

Cal via Kevin Banister.

Kenneth Roy CURRAN OAM

BLUEY is NOT mentioned on the Police Wall of Remembrance * NOT JOB RELATED


FURTHER INFORMATION IS NEEDED ABOUT THIS PERSON, THEIR LIFE, THEIR CAREER AND THEIR DEATH.

PLEASE SEND PHOTOS AND INFORMATION TO Cal


May they forever Rest In Peace


Date listed: 29/6/2019CURRAN,  Kenneth Roy OAM
NX202327
1st Commando Company

“BLUEY”

Aged 93

Late of Frenchs Forest Passed away peacefully 27 June 2019

Dearly loved husband of Norma (dec).

Adored father of Neville, Graeme, Jenny and their partners.

Devoted Pop of seven grandchildren and ten great-grandchildren.

Loved by all his family.

In God’s Care

A Requiem Mass for the repose of the soul of Ken will be held at St. Martin de Porres Catholic Church, Prahran Avenue, Davidson on Thursday, 4 July, 2019 at 10.30am.

By request no flowers please

Publication: Manly Daily

https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/tributes/notice/3274730/?fbclid=IwAR2Pbi3tMHQHa8L3niafIQt1QjV68zjs3MvNTmdsPyyWX30p6yDwbwN9f9g

 


IF, you’ve ever published a death notice of some significance, this is it.

Ken Curran was a Commando during his military service.  I am not sure whether he served in WW2, Korea, Vietnam….?  But, I can gain more for you later.

Ken Curran was in my Unit, 1/19 Bn RNSWR and he was a fine man.  He gave his all to those about him.

A true ‘Serviceman’. One, that I respected and admired.

 

Sadly,  I am in Tasmania for the moment, and thus won’t be in a position to be at his funeral………. bugger.

 

Bob Burrage.

 

 

 

 


 

Kenneth Roy CURRAN OAM
Kenneth Roy CURRAN OAM


 

 

FRONT COVER: VALE WO2 Ken “Bluey” Curran, OAM. JP. 2nd/11th Commando Squadron WW2 & 1 Commando Company 9th of September 1925 - 26th of June 2019
FRONT COVER: VALE WO2 Ken “Bluey” Curran, OAM. JP. 2nd/11th Commando Squadron WW2 & 1 Commando Company 9th of September 1925 – 26th of June 2019

 


Kenneth Roy CURRAN OAM

Kenneth Roy CURRAN OAM

MEDAL (OAM) OF THE ORDER OF AUSTRALIA IN THE GENERAL DIVISION
Mr Kenneth Roy CURRAN,
32 Mimosa Street, Frenchs Forest NSW 2086
For service to the community, particularly through pipe bands and aged care
organisations, and to a range of military and law enforcement authorities as an
instructor.
Current Drum Major, Northern Suburbs Pipes and Drums.
Current Honorary Drum Major and Dress and Drill Tutor, East Hills Scouts Pipes and Drums, for 30 years.
Current Dress and Drill Judge, Australian Pipe Band Association.
Current volunteer driver and carer, KADDY (Keen Abled and Disabled of Dee Why), for over 19 years; Board Member, for several years.
Current bus driver, Justinian House, Mater Hospital, for about 18 years.
Bus driver, Manly-Warringah-Pittwater Community Transport.
Justice of the Peace, since 1958.
Unarmed Combat Instructor, Australian Special Forces, Naval Police, Australian Army, NSW Police, NSW Prison Service, since 1950s.
Awards include:
Seniors Week Achievement Award, 2004.
Frank McAskill Trophy, for the improvement of the quality of life for Senior Citizens in the Manly Warringah-Pittwater areas, 2000.
Sister of Mercy Award, for his service to Justinian House.

https://webarchive.nla.gov.au/awa/20070829035401/http://www.gg.gov.au/res/File/PDFs/honours/qb06/Media%20Notes%20OAM(A-E).pdf


 

Ken Blue Curran (2012)

 

Inducted into the A.M.A.H.O.F.(Inc) for 2012
Lifetime Achievement – Army Unarmed Combat

 Inducted into the W.K.U.H.O.F. for 2012

Lifetime Achievement – Army Unarmed Combat

Blue Curran on an unarmed combat course in the early 1960’s
Blue Curran on an unarmed combat course in the early 1960’s

Kenneth Roy “Blue” Curran was born on 9th September 1925 in Waverly NSW.  He first joined the army during WW II in 1943 at 18 years of age. His service number was NX 202327 he served in Australia and after reaching 19 years of age and therefore being eligible for overseas operational deployment transferred from Infantry to Commandos.  He saw service in 2/11 Cavalry Regiment Commando Squadron, he completed his commando training in far North Queensland and later saw service in Moratai, Labuan, British Borneo and Rabaul before the end of the war.

At wars end he returned to civilian life but reenlisted in the military as a Citizen Military Force (CMF) member of the newly raised 1 Commando Company (1 Cmdo Coy) in 1955 at the age of 30.  His CMF service number was 2242907.

Blue was an active member of 1 Cmdo for twenty years up until 1975 when he officially retired from military service.  However, as a result of Blue’s experience and skills relating to Military Unarmed Combat (MUC) training over the years he has been retained as a consultant from time to time to the military to assist in MUC training well into the new millennia.

As a consultant to the military he had conducted training for commandos, infantry battalions and other unit’s right through to 2000.  From 2004 to 2007 he was requested by the Infantry Training Center at Ingleburn to conduct training in bayonet fighting.  In addition to his service to the military Blue has also trained the first members of the then newly raised NSW Police Tactical Response Group (TRG) and continued to provide training support as requested.  He has trained numerous other law enforcement groups, prison services and members of the Sheriff’s Department. He has also conducted security training for security firms, and personal self defence training for members of the community.  He continues to train security officers in self defence and the use of batons and handcuffing techniques.

Physical fitness in MUC training is heavily emphasized by Blue
Physical fitness in MUC training is heavily emphasized by Blue

During his time in the Australian Military Blue was responsible for keeping alive MUC from his initial training in WW II to its resurgence in the mid 1950’s with the raising of 1 Cmdo Coy.  He was also instrumental in the continual review and development of the MUC training program ensuring that outdated techniques were dropped from the syllabus and new information added to keep the MUC syllabus relevant to the changing needs of the military.  This also comprised the inclusion of skills from civilian martial arts either through serving soldiers with previous experience or through association with martial arts instructors.  However, it was always advocated that any changes to the syllabus was relevant to the operational requirements of the military and were not a stylised application of complicated techniques that did not fit military needs or application.

Blue over time would later become the Army’s senior MUC instructor and the person primarily responsible for its propagation to the next generation of MUC instructors in the early to mid 1960’s who in later years would guide MUC within the military.  In this role Blue was the last then serving WWII Commando with MUC training and operational experience remaining from the WW II era.  Those instructors who later would have their own significant contributions to MUC that would benefit from this knowledge and experience included Major Greg Mawkes, Major John Whipp, and WO1 Denis Gaskell to name a few.

In 1980 Blue was officially acknowledged for his services related to MUC training within the military and was awarded the Order of Australia Medal.  In later years he was recognized further by membership to the International Close Quarter Fighting Instructors Association.  Ken currently lives with his wife in French’s Forrest Sydney.

Blue supervising training on a MUC course in the 1950’s
Blue supervising training on a MUC course in the 1950’s

Dialogue and Interview with Ken “Blue” Curran OAM, JP

Recorded by Glen Gardiner 1st April 2010, Sydney

I first joined the army in 1943 when I was 18 years old. I went to recruit training in Warwick in Queensland and returned to Sydney where I was posted to a young soldier infantry battalion.

At that time you could not be deployed overseas on operations until you were 19 years of age.  So those of us who were under 19 years of age would end up in these young soldier battalions.  There were three of these battalions located in Sydney at the time.

Bayonet training is integral to MUC
Bayonet training is integral to MUC

While posted to Sydney I was involved in the development of beach defences in and around Sydney.  I attended my first Military Unarmed Combat (MUC) course in Sydney which was run by an ex professional wrestler named Alf Vockler.  He was a Warrant Officer 2nd Class (WO 2) and the only instructor on the course.  In those days MUC was virtually unheard of.  To the best of my memory he was posted to the military as a Sgt because of his wrestling experience.  He may have come from a corps of instructors but I am not certain.

The MUC course was conducted in the French’s Forrest area at Terry hills around the Xmas period of 1943/1944.  The course duration was for a period of 2 weeks, the courses official title was Physical Training and Unarmed Combat Course.     There were approximately 20 participants on the course from the infantry corps.  To my knowledge all passed the training and qualified as an exponent.  In those days the army did not run instructors courses that I am aware of and relied on military personnel with previous experience recruited specifically to instruct.

The training consisted mostly of holds and restraints with a heavy focus on wrestling.  There was a little bit of disarm techniques related to pistols.  Not much was done with rifles or knives even.  Counters to open handed attack with the counters mainly being throw downs was also conducted.  There was a very heavy amount of work related to physical fitness training.

Later that year after completing the MUC course I was sent to Cowra as a reinforcement when Japanese POW’s made an attempt to escape.  After that I returned to Sydney where I turned 19 and was then sent to Canungra.  The course at Canungra was jungle training before we were deployment north on operations.  After completing training at Canungra I and 3 others volunteered to be transferred from infantry to Commandos.  3 of us were accepted into 2/11 Commando Cavalry Squadron.  This unit had formally been a cavalry unit in the Middle East with the 9th Division prior to their return to Australia.  From Canungra I was posted to the Atherton Tablelands with 2/11 Commando Sqn (Divisional Commando with 3 Commando units attached to each Division) at Raven hoe where we conducted pre deployment training. We concluded commando training here in 1944.  It included infantry training, MUC, explosives training, etc.

I was used to conduct the MUC training as an instructor for the unit as I was the only one in the unit who had done an MUC course that I was aware of.   During this period at Raven hoe which was only several months.  During this time I trained the personnel in platoon sized groups.  I think would have trained 2 platoons in this period.  It was difficult to train more or formalize the training as in those days the members of the unit were scattered all over the place conducting various forms of training before deployment.  This was all prepatory to us doing invasion training which was later conducted near Cairns if my memory is correct.  Members of the unit would conduct training at the Atherton Tableland and then go to Cairns to do training changing from ships to landing craft, cargo nets and practicing beach landings.  The troops would then return to the tableland and do other forms of training some of which included MUC depending on availability.  We then were deployed in the invasion of Moratai in 1944 (2/11 Cmdo Cav Regt, 24 Bde, 9 Div).  After Moratai we boarded steamers and conducted the invasion of Labuan (1944).  After the capture of Labuan we were deployed to British Borneo, Papar on the Padus River pushing up the rail link to Jesselton.  While we were in Jesselton we received news that the war was over.

Blue and Lionel “Pup” Currell both WWII Cmdo and MUC Instructors
Blue and Lionel “Pup” Currell both WWII Cmdo and MUC Instructors

The 2/11 Cmdo Cav Regt was disbanded and I was sent to Rabaul for several months guarding prisoners as well as being involved in infrastructure rebuilding.  I then returned to Australia and after a period when I was hospitalised with malaria I was demobed at the School of Artillery at North Head after I had recovered from my bout of malaria.

After the war I completed my apprenticeship as a photo engraver and joined the NSW police force from 1950 to 1956.  I then worked for the NSW railway as a fireman on the steam engines for a year. I then returned to my trade. During my working life I did a lot of different jobs.

In 1955 I joined the Citizen Military Forces (CMF) the pre cursor to the Reserves.  I did my CMF recruit course at 1 Commando Company at Georges Heights, Mossman.  I remained in that unit until 1975.  During this period I instructed MUC courses for the unit and other members of the Army.  The chief instructor for MUC training at 1 CMDO at this time was WO 2 Lionel Currell (“PUP” Currell).

Standing Blue last right with John Whipp second from left 1970’s
Standing Blue last right with John Whipp second from left 1970’s

It was during this period that I requalified as a MUC exponent and later qualified as an Instructor.  During my time with Commandos I later assumed the position of chief instructor teaching MUC at 1 Commando.  WO 2 Lionel Currell was a regular army soldier and a WW II commando veteran.  When I joined 1 Cmdo, he was the 1 Cmdo Coy, Company Sergeant Major (CSM).  He was posted to the unit from Western Australia where he was involved in a parachute unit.  I have no idea where he learnt MUC but he was very proficient, a disciplinarian and I was his assistant instructor.  After his 4 year posting to the unit he was reposted and I became the senior instructor for 1 Cmdo Coy.  Prior to his leaving I had risen through the ranks and I was promoted to the position of CSM 1 Cmdo Coy, the first CMF member to reach this position.  The Officer Commanding (OC) of 1 Cmdo Coy during this time was a regular army officer,  Major Grant, a veteran of  WWII and Korea who was later promoted to Brigadier and an ex WWII Commando.  He is now living in Melbourne I believe.

Blue teaching counters to Bayonet attacks at 1 Cmdo in 2007
Blue teaching counters to Bayonet attacks at 1 Cmdo in 2007

During my time with 1 Cmdo I trained many units over the years in MUC.  I trained the Special Air Service Regiment (SASR) on 4 occasions in Perth as well as their members at 1 Cmdo Coy.  The majority of SAS instructors came from 1 and 2 Cmdo with a lot of their first members coming from these units as well.  I also gave training to 3rd battalion Royal Australian Regiment (3 RAR) and the 1/19 battalion CMF Bushman’s Rifles at Ingleburn.

It is hard to remember all the courses I instructed on.  A lot of the courses would be conducted at 1 Cmdo Coy.  After I retired from the CMF in 1975 I would still be asked to conduct MUC courses for my old unit and others.  In 2004 I was called by Major Davis at Singleton to teach bayonet work in trenches.  I did this as a volunteer for a period of 3 and half years.

I think while I was at 1 Cmdo I ran approximately 2 courses a year from 1955 to 1975.   In addition to this I was also involved in conducting training for police instructing the first course for the NSW police Tactical Response Group (TRG) at 1 Cmdo Coy.  In subsequent years I conducted follow up training with the police as well as the NSW prisons department and later the Corrective Services, Australian Protective Services, and Sheriff’s Department.  I have also conducted numerous self defence and training courses for commercial security personnel in the security industry.  I am currently 84 years young and still conducting self defence and security officer training teaching self defence, batons and handcuffing techniques.

“Blue”, who were the Instructors of MUC and what was their backgrounds when you first started training and then through your subsequent time teaching MUC?

The first MUC instructor I met was WO 2 Alf Vockler who was a professional wrestler.  As a young digger this man was god to us. I believe he had joined and was recruited by the military to teach MUC.  Later in the 1950’s while at 1 Cmdo Coy I met WO 2 Lionel Currell who was the senior instructor for MUC at 1 Cmdo Coy before being posted from the unit.  I am not sure where he learnt MUC but he was quite good at it.  I believe Lionel was initially trained possibly by British instructors.  I am not aware if he had previous training in martial arts other than MUC.  I remember that he was a strong disciplinarian.

Blue taking PT on a MUC course in 1980 when he was 55 years old
Blue taking PT on a MUC course in 1980 when he was 55 years old

To your knowledge “Blue” was MUC also being trained in other non commando units and was it widespread in the Army as well as other services during WWII?

I am not certain about that because during this time you only new about what your particular mob was doing.  But thinking about it, it is quite possible that this was the case.

After World War II can you describe the attitude toward MUC training by the military command in commandos and the wider military?

After WWII MUC training disappeared within the Australian military.  It did not gain resurgence until the formation of the CMF commandos in 1955.

Senior military commanders had lost touch with MUC and felt that it was a specialist skill and not something that was regularly conducted within the wider Army.  It was thought of as being more relevant for Special Forces (SF).  However, non SF units would contact 1 Cmdo Coy requesting this form of training.

“Blue”, was there a resurgence of MUC training with the onset of the Korean War and if so who were the instructors and where were the courses conducted and what did the syllabus contain?

I am not sure if MUC was taught for the Korean War but it was 1 and 2 Cmdo Coy which revitalized MUC in the Australian army from the mid 1950’s.  In 2 Cmdo Coy the main Instructor was Ted Malone.  I also qualified Major Greg Mawkes from the SASR in Swanbourne in the 1960’s.  He later became OC of 2 Cmdo Coy and then was responsible for MUC training in the SASR.

John Whipp was another instructor qualified by me in 1962 prior to going to Vietnam.  He was in an infantry battalion at the time and did the course at 1 Cmdo here in Sydney.  John and Greg would both later play important roles in MUC training within the Australian military.

During this period the syllabus for MUC had changed dramatically to that of WWII.  The main emphasis now was on killing techniques.  This was developed through seeing what was being done in military circles as well as civilian martial arts and then adapting that information for the various roles required in the military.  The courses were continually updated for current techniques of the day with the syllabus  still displaying a strong emphasis on physical training, rolls and break falls, pressure points, throws, striking techniques, defence against weapons including firearms, knives, machetes, bayonet fighting, elimination techniques and prisoner control.

Blue instructing on a MUC course at 1 Cmdo Coy in 1980
Blue instructing on a MUC course at 1 Cmdo Coy in 1980

“Blue”, did you feel that the support for MUC by the military command was cyclic and stop and go during your years of association with MUC training?

Yes support for MUC in the Australian military was very up and down dependent on the individual interest of senior commanders within the army.  Some military commanders understood the value others did not and MUC either benefited or not from this situation.

The problem was however, that after a period of non support the Army would need to re-invent the wheel again and had to either find remaining qualified personnel or start again.  I think the cycle now is going downhill once again after some support in recent years.

“Blue”, was there a renewal and subsequent wane of interest in MUC in the Vietnam War era?

Prior to going to Vietnam there was interest by personnel to conduct training however, this conflicted with the need for unit commanders to train troops prior to deployment in normal infantry soldier skills and not ones seen as value added such as MUC.

 

“Blue”, do you feel that MUC in the Australian military developed in different directions as members of the defence force promoted MUC in the Army as well as the other services for different needs, what can you tell us about this?

Yes I did see MUC go in different directions, but I still think that MUC should be under one banner with different corps requirements being managed under one guiding direction.  Each one has its own core requirement but needs to be managed so that MUC heads in one direction; to make my point Military Police don’t need to be taught how to kill for example.  But they also need to know techniques for an operational focus.

 

“Blue”, during the period that you have been involved with MUC training in the military have you seen it evolve and if so what are your thoughts about that evolution?

Yes, MUC has evolved and I think for the best as new techniques are added that support the soldiers role for today.

 

“Blue”, in your opinion do you feel that there is still a place for MUC training in the military in the 21st century and if so what it is?

Yes, without a doubt.   MUC is required to enable our Army to stay relevant with other nations and to develop soldierly skills and techniques that are required on operations.

Blue in his mid 80’s still teaching Bayonet fighting skills
Blue in his mid 80’s still teaching Bayonet fighting skills

“Blue”, what is your opinion concerning the military sourcing civilian martial artists to teach soldiers, do you think it relevant and are these instructors suitable to teach for various operational roles?

I maintain that an instructor needs to have a military background but it is commonsense to take knowledge from wherever we can find it and adapt it for the military role.  You must update to stay current.  I don’t think civilian instructors though are the complete answer.  But certainly take the knowledge and adapt it for the military using military instructors or previous civilian instructors who are in the military.

 

“Blue”, in your opinion what do you feel would be the way forward for MUC training today for today’s military?

Training needs to be relevant to the needs of the Army, it is unfortunate that currently MUC in today’s military is not as widespread throughout the military as it should be as in other nations.  I think that it is difficult for military commanders to recognize the value of MUC and to support MUC.  Until this happens MUC will remain as it always has and will be reliant on the support of individual commanders as they come and go.  In today’s Army MUC should be integral in training developing skills and confidence.

 

“Blue”, can you describe what the training was like? How hard? Injury rates etc

Injury rates in the WWII MUC courses were very low and the same applied during my time teaching MUC.  High injury rates are a sign of bad instruction.  Training was hard, we had to prove a point, and a lot of the techniques were designed for killing.  Physical fitness was a big part of training, it was important to teach soldiers to develop the will to still keep going.  It still is important.

 

“Blue” you have lived to a very fortunate age what pearls of wisdom can you impart to the younger generations on conducting self defence/defensive tactics training?

As is, Keep it up and keep it going, it is something that is needed.  Use commonsense, make sure there are no injuries and impart knowledge as best you can.

 

“Blue” what advice would you give people regarding avoiding fights and once in a fight what should they do?

Walk away from it if possible, if you cannot walk away you have to do the best you can.  If you are in it you are in it to win.  I don’t care if I have to use dirty tactics to win and survive.

 

“Blue”, what are your views of the Australian soldier from when you were serving and the current Aussie soldier today?

Blue and the Author, former MUC instructor Glen Gardiner
Blue and the Author, former MUC instructor Glen Gardiner

I think today they are far superior to the soldier of the past.  The soldier of the past came up through the depression days.  He had to learn the ropes the hard way.  Today’s young soldiers in my opinion are far better educated and sophisticated and willing to learn.  A far better type of lad mentally and physically to previous years.  As an example one participant as a private learning MUC was a qualified medical doctor and he had a genuine desire to learn.

Ken Blue Curran (2012)

https://www.amahof.asn.au/members/2012-2/ken-blue-curran/?fbclid=IwAR0rSj7irHTqF1C-_LdXOEqYgjHZkLm0CrlqQGmfcAk209qcvtfsIzysZHc


 

 

Australian Commando Association (NSW) Inc · June 27 · So passes a great Australian.
Australian Commando Association (NSW) Inc · June 27 · So passes a great Australian.


 

 

 

 




Eileen Patricia WILSON

Eileen Patricia WILSON

AKA  PAT

Wife to Cec SHAW # & mother Wayne SHAW # 18327

Late of Lansvale, NSW

NSW Penrith Police Academy Class #  ? ? ?

New South Wales Police Force

Uniform # 1077

Regd. # ???

Rank:  “Special Constable” – appointed ? ? pre July 1955?

Final Rank = ?

Stations?, School Lecturing – Bourke St – Darlinghurst, Metropolitan Traffic Branch School Lecturing Section – Retirement

Service:  From ? ? pre July 1953?  to *10 September 1955 =  1.5 years Service

*In these early days of NSW Policing, female police were not permitted to be married.  If they did marry, they had to Resign from NSWPF.

Awards: No Find on Australian Honours

Born: Monday  28 July 1930

Died on: Friday 19 July 2019 @ 2210hrs

Age: 88 ( 9 days before her 89th birthday )

Cause: Heart failure – Dementia

Event location: ?

Event date: Friday  19 July 2019 @ 2210hrs

Funeral date: St Matthews Catholic church, 12 Tebbutt St, Windsor, NSW

Funeral location: Friday  26 July 2019 @ 1.30pm

Wake location: ?TBA

Funeral Parlour: Windsor Funeral Home – 4577 2322

Buried at: Cremated – Garden Chapel of Castlebrook Crematorium, Windsor Road, Rouse Hill

Memorial located at: ?

 

Mrs Cecil SHAW

 

Eileen Patrician WILSON - Point Duty - Sydney CBD
Eileen Patricia WILSON – Point Duty – Sydney CBD

Eileen Patrician WILSON - Point Duty - Sydney CBD
Eileen Patricia WILSON – Point Duty – Sydney CBD

 

Back Row (L-R): Marsia POTTER, June STRATHMORE ( R.I.P. ), ?, ? Front Row: Eileen Patricia 'Pat WILSON, Inness ? ( R.I.P. ), ?
Back Row (L-R):  Marsia POTTER ( was a Sgt 2/C ), June STRATHMORE ( was a Sgt 2/c ) ( R.I.P. ), ?, ? Front Row: Eileen Patricia ‘Pat WILSON, Inness ? ( R.I.P. ), ?

 

EILEEN is NOT mentioned on the Police Wall of Remembrance * NOT JOB RELATED


Funeral location: TBA


FURTHER INFORMATION IS NEEDED ABOUT THIS PERSON, THEIR LIFE, THEIR CAREER AND THEIR DEATH.

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September 1955Eileen Patrician WILSON, a Constable with the School Lecturing Section at Darlinghurst married Cecil Alfred Shaw, a Constable and member of 22 Division, Liverpool. They married at St. Patricks Catholic Church, Parramatta.

( Source: Liverpool Police History – 1788 – 2016 )


 

SHAW, Eileen Patricia ” Pat “
28/07/1930 – 19/07/2019
Aged 88 Years
Passed away peacefully in hospital surrounded by family.
Settled in Canley Vale home with beloved husband Cecil Ike (deceased).
Dearest sister to Josie (deceased).
Loving Mother of Wayne, Debbie, Lisa, Melinda, Nicole and Louise.
Mother-in-law to 3.
Proud Grandmother to 20 and
Great Grandmother to 7 with two little souls on the way.
In God s Loving Care
Relatives and friends of Pat are warmly invited to attend her funeral service that will be held at 1.30pm on Friday 26th July 2019, at St Matthew s Catholic Church, 12 Tebbutt Street Windsor.
Following the service, the cortege will proceed to the Garden Chapel of Castlebrook Crematorium, Windsor Road, Rouse Hill.
Funerals
Published in The Daily Telegraph on 23/07/2019

 

 

 


Hey Greg, just to let you know that mum passed away on Friday, at 22:10
Us 5 girls have been with her all day every day and all day with our children as well on Friday, as we knew time was growing shorter.
Mum was resting peacefully, probably hearing us all around her, chatter and recalling older days.
One grandson was reading out the crossword puzzle clues as we all tried to guess the answers.
It was, I suppose, an early birthday gathering for mum because she would have turned 89 next Sunday, July 28.
Debbie and Louise had planned to stay the night… we all wanted to but that was impossible.
We all slowly left through the night, one by one, with plans to return in the morning, as mum’s breathing was steady.
She was given morphine every four hours to help her rest and breathe easily, which she was.
There was no change until the last person left, leaving Debbie and Louise to settle in for the night.
3 minutes later mum’s breathing began to slow down. Minutes later she quietly slipped away,
Debbie and Louise were by her side, gently talking to her, telling her to go to Dad as they held her hands.
They said she was very, very peaceful,.
I really believe that she was waiting for us to go so she could go with dad.
On Thursday I sat by her bedside and held her hand for 9 hours. Whispering to her come by letting her know that I was not going anywhere. We were all taking it in shifts.
Every time I went to pull my hand away, just to change position, she would squeeze my hand. She knew I was there and I am just so glad I was there.
Greg, all the laughs you had with mum and dad through the years and when you were patrolling with Wayne, the whole Shaw household loved your presence… except for my dog.????
Thank you for your kind words too.
You are right.
Mum has been without dad for so long now.
25 years in fact!
I imagine she has gone rushing back to dad’s arms….. free from her poor old body.????
????????

NSW Police School Lecturing Unit - 11 July 1953<br /> PIX MAGAZINE<br /> Volume 30, No. 5 ( 11 July 1953 )<br /> Pages 21 - 23<br />
NSW Police School Lecturing Unit – 11 July 1953
PIX MAGAZINE
Volume 30, No. 5 ( 11 July 1953 )
Pages 21 – 23

NSW Police School Lecturing Unit - 11 July 1953<br /> PIX MAGAZINE<br /> Volume 30, No. 5 ( 11 July 1953 )<br /> Pages 21 - 23<br />

NSW Police School Lecturing Unit - 11 July 1953<br /> PIX MAGAZINE<br /> Volume 30, No. 5 ( 11 July 1953 )<br /> Pages 21 - 23<br />

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Cumberland Argus (Parramatta, NSW : 1950 – 1962),

Wednesday 28 September 1955, page 9

WEDDING OF POLICEMAN, POLICEWOMAN

Seventy yards of billowing tulle and exquisite Chantilly lace, worn over slipper satin, went into the beautiful bridal gown, which Eileen Patricia Wilson wore at her marriage to Cecil Alfred Shaw, in St, Patrick’s Catholic Church, Parramatta.

Both bride and groom are members of the N.S.W. Police Force.

Eileen, who is the eldest daughter of Mr. and Mrs. H. Wilson, of Blaxcell Street, Granville, was attached to the school lecturing division, Bourke Street, Darlinghurst.

Cecil, eldest son of Mr. and Mrs. A. Shaw, is a member of No. 22 Division, Liverpool.

Eileen’s bridal gown, together with the maid’s frock, fashioned by her friend, Mrs. E. Hawke, of Granville, featured a lace-fitted bodice, long sleeves and a lace draped apron front, continued to the back and finishing with a bustle bow and two hemline tails. The tulle skirt was cut with an eight foot train. Her short, four-tiered veil was held by a crown of lily of-the-valley.

Large camellias, surrounded by white hyacinths, comprised the bridal bouquet.

Josephine Anne Wilson, her only attendant, wore a full-length frock of salmon flecked nylon, with a plain salmon nylon apron front and bustle bow. She wore a halo of tuber roses in her hair.

Best man was Bernard Russell Shaw, the groom’s brother.

One hundred guests were received at ” Westella, ” Auburn, Lilac Ballroom, by Mrs. Wilson, who chose a blue figured nylon frock, topped with a blue and white coat.

Mrs. Shaw chose a lemon romaine beaded frock and black accessories.

The bride changed for her Coolangatta honeymoon in to a champagne, sculptured nylon frock, over which she wore a powder-blue velvet coat and a small matching petal hat.

They will return to their flat at Granville.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/131386212


 

 

 

 




Joan Mudie GAY

 Joan Mudie GAY – widow of

William Gordon ‘Squeaker’ GAY # 5277

AKA  ?
Late of Bourke St Health Service, Goulburn

New South Wales Police Force – Widow

Rank:  Police Wife

Stations?

Awards:   No find on It’s An Honour

Born:   26 January1930

Died on:   Friday  8 February 2019

Age:  89

Cause:   ?

Event location: Bourke St Health Service, Goulburn

Event date:  Friday  8 February 2019

Funeral date:   Friday  15 February 2019 @ 1.30pm

Funeral location:   Saints Peter & Paul’s Cathedral, Bourke St, Goulburn

Wake location:  ?

Funeral Parlour:  Sidney Craig Funerals, Goulburn  48212122

Buried at:  Cremated

 Memorial located at:   ?

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JOAN MUDIE GAY
8 February 2019
Passed away peacefully at Bourke Street Health Service, Goulburn.
Much loved wife of William Gordon (dec).
Loving mother and mother-in-law of Peter, Robert & Marcell, Maureen & Terry, Patricia & Barry and Margaret.
Very proud and loving nan to her seventeen grandchildren and a much loved great ‘Nanny Gay’ to all of their children.
Aged 89 years.
‘Forever In Our Hearts’
Joan’s family and friends are invited to attend her Mass of Christian Funeral commencing at 1:30pm Friday 15 February 2019 at St Peter & Pauls Cathedral, Bourke Street Goulburn. A private cremation will take place.
R. J. Sidney Craig Funeral Directors
EST. 1837 – AFDA / FDA (NSW)
298 Sloane St, Goulburn NSW 2580
Telephone: (02) 4821 2122

Published in The Canberra Times on Feb. 13, 2019

http://tributes.canberratimes.com.au/obituaries/canberratimes-au/obituary.aspx?n=joan-mudie-gay&pid=191521992
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Wallace DENT

Wallace DENT

AKA WALLY
Late of Balgownie

NSW Redfern Police Academy Class #  ? ? ?

New South Wales Police Force

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Uniform #  361

Rank:  Probationary Constable – appointed 28 October 1957

Constable 1st Class – appointed 28 October 1963

Senior Constable – appointed 1 July 1968

Sergeant 3rd Class – appointed 1 October 1973

Final Rank = Sergeant

Stations:  Wagga Wagga HWP ( 1959 – 1964 ), South Coast District,  Pt Kembla HWP, Warilla HWP, Wollongong HWP ( 1964 – ), attended the 1st ever BAS Course in Melbourne in 19?? with Dick Brook, Les Austen, Bert Hammond & Max Ebrill., Wollongong BAS – ( Breath Analysis Section ), Pt Kembla GD’s ( 1975 or 76 )( Sgt 3/c ), Traffic Office – Warilla 1980 ( Sgt 2/C ) until having a heart attack & going out HOD in 1982 or 1984.

After HOD, worked at Bramble Armoured division as a Security Guard in 1988 for 15 years.

ServiceFrom  ? ? pre Oct 1957?  to  ? ? 1982 or 1984?? years Service

Awards:   No find on It’s An Honour

Born:   13 August 1937 – Wollongong

Died on:   Thursday  7 February 2019 during the a.m. in Thrroul

Age:  81

Cause:   Natural causes – Old age

Event location:  the Links Palliative Care, Wollongong

Event date:  Thursday  7 February 2019

Funeral date:   Tuesday  12 February 2019 @ noon

Funeral location:   Parsons Funerals, Princes Hwy, Bulli

Wake location:  Collegians Rugby Club, Charlotte St, Wollongong

Funeral Parlour:  H. Parsons, Princes Hwy, Bulli

Buried at:   ?

 Memorial located at:   ?

[alert_blue] WALLY is NOT mentioned on the Police Wall of Remembrance[/alert_blue] * NOT JOB RELATED

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Wally DENT Wally DENT
Wally leaves behind his wife Barbara, daughters Jody & Nicole, the girls respective husbands and grandchildren.
Further information to follow.
Cal
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Allen Joseph MURPHY

Allen Joseph MURPHY 

AKA  SPUD
Late of Orange

NSW Redfern Police Academy Class #  ? ? ?

New South Wales Police Force

[alert_yellow]Regd. #  9509[/alert_yellow]

Rank:  Probationary Constable – appointed 2 November 1959

Constable 1st Class – appointed 2 November 1965

Senior Constable – appointed 2 November 1969

Sergeant 3rd Class – appointed 8 April 1984

Final Rank = Sergeant ?/Class

Stations?, Newcastle District ( Cst 1/C ), Orange ( Sgt / 1987 )

ServiceFrom  ? ? pre Nov 1959?  to  ? ? ?? years Service

Awards:   National Medal – granted 15 September 1980 ( SenCon )

1st Clasp to National Medal – granted 10 September 1986 ( Sgt 3/C )

Born:   31 December 1929

Died on:   Thursday  31 January 2019 with family by his side

Age:  89

Cause:   Heart failure – age

Event location:  St Francis Aged Care, Clinton St, Orange

Event date:  Thursday  31 January 2019

Funeral date:   Wednesday 6 February 2019 @ 11.30am

Funeral location:  ( most probably – so check again ), St Mary’s Church, Park St, Orange

Wake location:  ?

Funeral Parlour:  Norman J Penhall Funerals, Orange  63623751

Buried at:   ?

 Memorial located at:   ?

Allen Joseph MURPHY

 

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MURPHY, Allen Joseph
31.12.1929 – 30.01.2019
Passed away peacefully surrounded by family at St. Francis Aged Care. Loving husband of Jan.
Much loved father, grandfather and great grandfather
“In God’s Loving Care”
Aged 89 Years
Funeral details to be announced at a later date.
NORMAN J PENHALL FUNERALS AFDA, FDA of NSW
33 William Street, Orange Phone 63623751
Our family caring for your family

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January 31, 2019
Thanks Big Al for your enduring love
and support. So glad that I got to call you my father. Love you so much xx
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January 31, 2019
I love you, Pop.
Thank you for loving me, for encouraging me.
I am so proud to be the granddaughter of such a kind, faithful, hard-working, downright good bloke.
http://www.legacy.com/guestbooks/centralwesterndaily-au/allen-joseph-murphy-condolences/191403969?cid=full
Published in The Orange Central Western Daily on Jan. 31, 2019
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Julie McDougall  NSW Fallen Police
All I know from working with him that he was a devout catholic, had 13 children and was a shearer when he wasn’t working as a cop. He was a sergeant and a truly good man and I remember him saying when cigarettes got to $2 a pack he would quit and he did.
RIP
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